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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 02:19:00 -
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Hey all,
I just quit my day job as a miner. I've invested so much time in my skills and now they are all at lvl 5 for mining, refining, industry, astrology etc etc. Made plenty of money and even got a Ferox that I take out for a spin ratting once in a while. Now I have enough for my new baby.... a Raven.
Not going to buy it yet until I get some basic skills in WCS, Shield Hardeners, Med Hybrid Turrets, PDU, MWD etc. I think going into 0.4 and below should be okay with this... guess I'll find out.
What I want to know is about sec status. Say I'm flying around and I see a player with a bounty on his head and a negative sec status. I assume I cannot just fire at will without having to reap the consequences of a drop in my sec status. But letÆs say that he locks onto me and my ship auto locks back. Can I fire then without reprisals? Or do I have to wait until he fires the first shot at me? Even then if I'm lucky enough to take him down does my sec status take a hit?
How about if I lock onto someone without firing, but they fire at me? Does this mean IÆm free to ædefendÆ myself without taking a sec hit? Is the fact that I target locked someone first taken into account?
Not that I want to turn into a pirate, but IÆm thinking about becoming a bounty hunter. In Eve, does the fact that they have a sec status of à letÆs say -5.0 dissolve me of any consequences? Probably not IÆm assuming. But then how does a bounty hunter not become the target of other bounty hunters?
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Eithan Cole on 04/12/2005 02:45:37
Okay, so if I was in Empire space and I see someone with a bounty of say 50K and a sec status of -2.0 (I have no idea if thatÆs even remotely accurate). I can't fire at them without getting a sec hit myself - I'd have to persuade them into firing the first shot - then it's free for all.
By taking out these 'Pirates' that Concord have placed bounties on, is there any sec increase for the player who takes them down? Or is that only for rats?
I guess I should go see if any Agents will talk to me. I never finished the tutorial and now that agent wonÆt even speak to me after I ignored her. IÆve never seen any agents in any station that will talk to me. How do I change this?
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 03:12:00 -
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Thanks jBob. Yes, I will train up on missiles instead.
I'm not sure I understand why having a Raven in 0.1 - 0.4 is setting myself up for failure? Surely by going into less secure space it is better to have a bigger ship with more armaments and tank capability? Or am I missing something?
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 03:33:00 -
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Yes I see your point, and I'm probably only showing my ignorance at the PvP aspect of Eve when I say this, but here goes anyway. I agree that I will run into pirates while in low sec (I already have with my Osprey in 0.4 and needless to say I lost the ship). They maybe completly hopeless and I fight them off with my Ferox. Maybe they aren't so hopeless but not great and they manage to take me out and pod kill me. If I was in the Raven, I would have won that battle.
I think no matter how skilled you are or how big of a ship you have, there's always someone bigger or smarter.
I haven't bought the Raven yet, and I don't plan to until I have the skills to defend it properly. I'll look at getting heavy missiles or cruise missles trained up to at least lvl 3. That's if I even but it now, starting to have second thoughts about spending 100mil......
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 04:18:00 -
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Sorry jbob. I don't mean to sound ungratefull for the advise. I've been fairly excited about getting the Raven thinking that I could go have some fun with a smaller change of being taken out.
I would feel kinda bummed if I lost it on the first outing. I think what I'll do is train up on the tank stuff and better missiles and take the Ferox out into 0.3 - 0.4 and see how I do. Then maybe I'll think again about the Raven a little later. Or take the smaller step and go for the Scorpion.
Thanks! :)
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.04 19:24:00 -
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Thanks everyone. I was kinda excited about being able to afford the Raven plus fittings and insurance, but I see the wisdom in your advice.
For now I think I'll buy a Caracal (because I prefer missiles) and venture into 0.1 - 0.4 space and get some practice. I have been into as low as 0.3 but never into 0.0. I think that will be a while away yet before I have the skills to survive that challenge.
Basically I assume from the above posts that a BS is actually worse than a cruiser or BC in low sec as they are slow and not so good at close combat. Where are they used then? In fleet battles? Not meant to be used for solo players (I wish I wasn't but my work doesn't really allow me to be on often enough to commit to joining a corp).
Thanks for the advice. It wasn't lost on me; you've changed my mind about buying the Raven.
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.05 22:28:00 -
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Thank you all for the advice. As I said earlier, you have changed my mind and I will not be buying the Raven. Obviously it is not meant to be used solo and requires friends to help defend it which I don't have as I can't join a corp.
Oh well. Looks like its back to boring old mining in high sec areas. Anyone need a loan? I got a spare 100mil...
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Eithan Cole
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Posted - 2005.12.06 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Eithan Cole on 06/12/2005 16:08:28
Well, I can't join a corp because of the nature of my job. I'm an officer onboard a cruise ship (currently in Tahiti) and I have limited access to the internet.
I'm also a MAC user and Eve doesn't have a MAC client so I am borrowing someone elseÆs PC laptop and use a wireless service shore side when we are in port. Basically I get to play for about two hours every 10 days so I would assume a corp wouldn't really want me as I can't guarantee to be on that often.
As you can imagine it's taken me a while to save up over 100mil but itÆs been getting easier as I get more SP and better ships. One good thing about not getting on that often is that I have been more inclined to train up on all those lvl5 skills like Refining, Mining, industry, learning (six skills). I've been able to net over 10mil each 10 days so it's taken about three months so far.
The reason I was wanting to get a better ship is because I'm due to go home to New Zealand in about three weeks for vacation and I wanted to be able to do something other than mine. I thought getting into PvP would be fun and having a bigger ship I would have a better chance of surviving. I see now from the advice that I am better off with a smaller ship like a cruiser or frigate.
I am able to afford to buy the Raven plus (estimated) 30mil to insure it plus the fittings. I estimated 10mil for fittings but I see from posts here that it's probably closer to 15mil. Although I can afford to buy it, I agree that I would be bummed if I lost it straight away. The insurance would cover the ship but not the insurance cost and fittings.
So, watch out for me in 0.3 - 0.4 sec first in a Caracal or Moa (or maybe even my Ferox) testing the waters.
Thanks :)
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